From digest.v5.n542 Tue Nov 12 00:23:21 1996
From: "Carl Buckland" <buckland_at_xmission.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:27:07 +0000
Subject: Carbon Fiber Trim
From: Ted Ching <tedching_at_ea.oac.uci.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 01:52:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: carbon fiber trim
Anyone have any info about adding carbon fiber trim to my car's interior?
Where to buy, how it turned out?
this is GOOD stuff! I installed the whole package, and love it.
Here is a repeat of a previous post:
Date sent: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:28:56 +0000
Subject: Carbon Fiber interior inserts
Copies to: milos_at_ix.netcom.com
During a brake this weekend, I was able to apply the full set of
Milos Klackos' carbon fiber dress up kit. As nice as the glove box
insert looked, the whole set is spectacular. It only took about an
hour to put on very carefully.
It looks clean, professional, and like it "belongs" on a race
oriented M3. It would look nice on any E36, for that matter. My
interior is gray and charcoal (standard with the Avus blue), and the
color of the carbon pieces is perfect.
If you want to dress up the interior of your rather spartan E36, you
may like this approach. You can find all the info, plus photos, on
Milos' Web page:
Milos Klacko (milos_at_ix.netcom.com)
Check his BMW Web Page with details about Carbon Fiber trim at:
BTW, it would seem kind of counter productive to "add weight" to a
car that is trying to be as competitive as possible. The whole kit
probably weighs 1/2 pound, if that. Also, I see no harm in making
your car more attractive, even if the article being added isn't a
"normal race piece."
Carl R. Buckland
1000 Boston Bldg
Nine Exchange Place
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
E Mail buckland_at_xmission.com
From digest.v6.n607 Thu May 1 13:13:58 1997
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 23:39:51 EDT
Subject: <E36> More on CF from Milos & BMW
Around April 23 I posted a comparison of Milos CF with the BMW Lightwt.
CF. It took me forever to find a LTW to look at to see what the
BMW CF looks like. I thought I'd save you shoppers some time...
After flipping through old Roundels, I realize I didn't have to chase
down one of 80 Lightweights in the country...the BMW CF is on the Feb.
'95 Roundel cover: ///M More speed? More power? More luxury? More Money!
If you think the cover is kinda brownish/red, it's because the real stuff
is. It looks kinda copper when the sun hits it. This is because about
15% of the threads are red, 25% black, and 60% light/shiny gray.
See the Apr. 23 post for my opinions on appropriate color schemes.
Now, you do have to chase down a LTW and/or be nice to a dealer to find
out what parts are available from BMW & the costs. I did both:
Manual center console 51 16 2 261 318 $864
Glove box trim 51 16 2 261 310 $196
Door sill strips 51 47 2 268 574 $111
Ashtray ? ?
Not nearly as many parts as Milo's stuff, but BMW quality (& price)
all the way. For those with '97 brown interiors, probably a good choice.
(for the '97 CCA rebate buyers out there) No inside door trim, though.
FYI, the LTW door sills are surprising on two counts 1) they're the
only parts that are fake CF (like the Mercedes SLK, only not cheap
looking like the Benz fake CF, the SLK's trim is a total joke)
and 2) they aren't what you think e.g. they don't go on the doors
themselves, they really go on the SILL (the "step" thing on your car
car when you open the doors up, my M3's is gray with a big ///M3 logo).
Why do I care so much about carbon fiber? 1) I want Milos AND BMW
to make lots of money selling CF trim. So far, Milos is doing better
at CF sales than BMW! And, 2) If enough people order the BMW stuff
from the LTW, maybe the Germans will get the hint that we want our
cars to look more like Porsches than walnut trimmed Jags. I'd like my
M3 race car to look like a machine to park at the Rathskeller for beer,
not a British boat for tea drinking, crumpet gumming old men chasing
20 yr olds. And, that's what the M5 will become if some of us don't
vote with our dollars to keep ///M machines young looking.
So, either buy Milos CF or buy BMW's LTW CF, and leave the walnut
stuff for the squirrels or Jag buying cigar gummers.
Our only other hope is that Milos gets so rich he can buy BMW-NA.
p.s. anyone know how to add the info I've found out on the BMW LTW
CF to www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/interior/e36_carbon_fiber_trim
so it's with the other CF info?
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