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From: Pearson-Franks Family <pearsonf_at_pop.halcyon.com>
To: bmwuucdigest_at_topica.com
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:55:28 -0700
Subject: Re: E28 Heater Valve Repair Kit
Shane:
Here are specifics put together in response to a similar query.
I go into gory, generic detail; skim what is not of interest.
In the event that you are having trouble controlling the
interior temp in your E28; read on! This troubleshooting
guide hits the modes of failure that can result in:
- Heat at low speeds, cool at high speeds, or
- Full heat unless the control is all the way down.
The heater control valve is mounted on the firewall in the
engine compartment, just inboard of the vacuum booster for
the brakes. It has a two pin electrical connection on the
top, and two hoses on the bottom.
The 'top' is secured with 4 straight-slot screws, which can
be removed with a little torquing around of the mount for the
assy. You can then extract the 'core', which, if the system
is not under pressure, will not leak coolant (quite a blessing,
really!). Anywho, the core is merely a solenoid that when 12v
is applied to it, retracts, pulling up a plunger. The
hydrodynamics of operation are a little more complicated than
that, but the parts that wear out are the rubber seals. Look
for any deterioration, or slits in the diaphram part of the
seal. Any leakage will be passed as hot water.
This core is available from dealers; and interestingly not
from most mailorder parts houses. The part number is:
64 118 390 132 with a reported retail of $47.45. It is
much cheaper than replacing the whole assy, which is usually
OK anyway, not counting the seal!
If your seals look fine (unlikely unless already replaced) then
it gets messier. There are two sets of thermistors; one just
above the driver's left toes, and one more or less straight
above the driver's right toes, but buried in the guts of the
heater itself.
The left one is accessed by pulling the driver's underdash panel.
It has a three-wire connector and a tiny vacuum line. The line
sucks cabin air past two thermistors on a tiny copperclad board
to sample interior temp. If you use an ohmmeter among the three
leads, you should find 30ish ohms on one leg, and a couple of
hundred on the other. Short = bad, open = bad; the actual values
are not critical as a troubleshooting issue.
The other one is more of a bear - since you already have the
underdash panel off, look above the accelerator pedal and find
a two-wire device secured to the heater case with a single screw.
Unplug the connector, remove the screw, and extract the several
inch long thermistor mount. For reasons unclear to me, the
soldered connections to this thermistor just let go. Probably
some sort of esoteric electrolytic reaction in the presence of
the various metals and chemicals available, but easily amenable
to resoldering! This device will measure at a couple of Kohms,
as I recall.
Last but not least, if all this checks, or is repaired by now,
the last culprit is the control know assy itself. It has a
6 or so pin connector to it, and the electronics in it have
died on occasion. Save this possibility 'till last, as it is
obnoxious to replace, not testable in any way known to me, and
is relatively expensive ($50ish) to replace.
Hope all this helps! Larry F.
>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:00:56 -0500
>From: shane.a.kleinpeter_at_ac.com
>Subject: E28 Heater Valve Repair Kit
>
>
>Can the kit mentioned in the subject line be obtained at a BMW dealer, or
>can I
>only buy the entire assembly? For some reason I thought that was the case. I
>also thought someone once said that the same part (repair kit) could be
>purchased at a Mercedes Benz dealer. I need to replace this part since mine
>konked out on my 535is on Saturday night, in Philadelphia, the day before
>I had
>to drive 9 hours home, freezing cold. Sheesh. Anyway, any help with this is
>appreciated, and does the kit still cost $30. I'd like to get one local so I
>don't pay shipping for one part, not to mention that I need it before this
>weekend.
>
>Shane Kleinpeter
>Tarheel Chapter
>'96 M3
>'88 535is
>
>
Pearson-Franks Family
Issaquah, Washington
> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:00:56 -0500
> From: shane.a.kleinpeter_at_ac.com
> Subject: E28 Heater Valve Repair Kit
>
>
> Can the kit mentioned in the subject line be obtained at a BMW dealer, or
can I
> only buy the entire assembly? For some reason I thought that was the
case. I
> also thought someone once said that the same part (repair kit) could be
> purchased at a Mercedes Benz dealer. I need to replace this part since
mine
> konked out on my 535is on Saturday night, in Philadelphia, the day before
I had
> to drive 9 hours home, freezing cold. Sheesh. Anyway, any help with this
is
> appreciated, and does the kit still cost $30. I'd like to get one local
so I
> don't pay shipping for one part, not to mention that I need it before this
> weekend.
>
> Shane Kleinpeter
> Tarheel Chapter
> '96 M3
> '88 535is
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