From digest.v6.n607 Thu May 1 13:13:58 1997
Date: Thu, 1 May 97 01:00:35 EDT
Subject: <all>RE:Pedals for Heel & Toe
Somebody asked about pedals for heel & toe. I've been shopping for
Brand Material Source Approx Cost Comments
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Niken 1) alum & blk BMP $60 long 9" accel pedal
center pad available--mounts kinda
cool, has hokey; brake/clutch OK
aggressive Korman $69 Ray K. shows short gas
looking trac- E36 cat. pedal in E36 catalog
tion holes. my guess is he knows
(no drilling a better-than-Niken
required) way to mount gas ped.
2) 1/2 alumin. local $? saw 'em in a distributor
1/2 black Speed catalog; the adjustable
w/ adjust- stores feature looks neat &
able width practical, if you can
& height can find a source for them
Razo 1) Niken look local $? saw 'em in a
alike,but speed distributor's
made of stores catalog of some
magnesium Japanese importer
instead in California
2) carbon fiber " $? called "new" in
looks very sharp importer's catalog
3) aluminum "Schnitz" $? "
clone (vert. slots)
Most Razo pedals are available with short, medium, & long
gas pedals. The clutch & brake pedals look like Niken's, but
look better made. I have no idea how they attach though,
because it's Japanese made, I think they're intended for
Honda's, etc. but they might fit BMW's. There are about 8
other styles. There are also very nice Razo CF shifters.
Wish somebody around here sold 'em so I could see them.
Schnitzer Shiny Bavarian Auto $260 made for BMW, long
Aluminum & other Schnitzer gas pedal, looks like
dealers distance between
between gas & brake
is too far unless you
are size 11 shoe
Racing Black RD dealers $240? made for BMW, I haven't
Dynamics Aluminum? seen it yet, my dealer
(I'm guessing ordered a catalog.
from a picture I'd buy 'em over
of foot brace) Niken's if they turn
out to be decent.
Wings Shiny aluminum p.106 of $99/105 really takes heel&toe
Engineering May Porsche gas only literally. Looks
"Excellence" unsafe if you miss
mag the brake. You gotta
see it tho..don't miss
it before you die.
Momo 1) aluminum seen in British $? The CF one requires
mags & in local drilling. Haven't
2) Carbon Fiber dealer shops $40 seen the alum. setup
The CF pedals are
nothing like the
quality of their
My conclustions so far are:
- The Niken from BMP or Korman seems easy to mount, it's
brake & clutch pedals are very decent. The 9" gas pedal is the
right shape for heel&toe (which is more like "ball & ball" of
foot, unless you have a size 13 foot) The mounting of the
gas pedal is hokey--I don't trust it totally. Anybody find
a good way to mount them? A good value otherwise. If Ray K.
can mount the gas pedal better, I'd buy from him. The gas
pedal straps "work-harden" with the first 90 degree bend.
I guess this is what you get for a "made for any make" setup.
- The made-for-BMW Schnitzer looks very shiny and not wide enough
for heel-toe. The made-for-BMW Racing Dynamics I'm anxious to
see. For $200+ dollars, my expectations are high. I'm starting
to think no one can make an E36 gas pedal pad w/o some drilling.
- The Wings Engineering pedal is fun to look at. Takes heel & toe
literally. Doesn't look practical for everyday though.
Ad states it has simple "on-off" in 1 minute, no alteration to stock.
Say's it needs Porsche square grid accel pattern. Now I know why
we have our own driving schools w/o Porsches--scares me to think what
a beginer might do with this pedal.
Bought the Nikens, but I'm still shopping...
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