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        Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:02:35 -0700
        Subject: JC chip vs superchips

        The first question you should be asking:   Is there anybody more
brilliant
        and more connected with the electronics&mechanical inner
workings of
        bosch/BMW engine management systems than Jim Conforti.   I have
to admit I
        am a friend of Jim's and am somewhat subjective (and in awe!)
when it comes
        to my interpretation of his abilities as a chip design genius.
However,  I
        was at the O-West festival (as a chip vendor) a couple of
weekends ago and
        had the opportunity to talk to a XXXan representative (I don't
want to name
        big names).  When I asked him what he thought about the Turner
        Motorsport/Jim Conforti larger HFM and Euro airbox (this is a
modification
        which opens up the intake to 3 1/2" vs. stock 3" and trades the
restrictive
        us airfilter box with the larger euro m3 box complete with a
recalibrated
        chip for the ecu) the XXXan rep told me that they hadn't noticed
any
        significant horsepower gains on the dynomometer.  It was sort of
a trick
        question on my part, in that I already knew that XXXan had
belatedly
        designed a similar modification.  So, hence the followup to the
setup.  I
        then asked "but aren't you (mr. XXXan rep) in the process of
marketing a
        virtually identical larger HFM & Euro airfilterbox (in spite of
the fact
        that he had just told me of how there was virtually nothing to
gain from
        this modification)" to which he reluctantly replied "yes we
are".  After
        XXXan's ironic if not contradictory reply I added "drive an M3
with this
        mod and then tell me it doesn't do anything (ha, ha, ha,)".
This is a
        classic example of the so-called guru's learning (if not cheap
stealing)
        from Jim Conforti's brilliant designs.  Another thing I learned
in talking
        with XXXan rep was that they didnt know everything about the BMW
electronic
        control unit.  This is where Jim C is definitely different.  In
Jim's
        living room is printed circiut board that once resided as the
ecu
        motherboard  for BMW car --- the circuit board is devoid of all
it's
        componentry.  Jim removed/desoldered every single control chip
and traced
        every inch of the computers circuitry before engineering chips
on the dyno
        (he leaves no stone left unturned).  This is why Jim's
performance designs
        i.e. forced induction etc, doesn't need prosthetic electronic
circuitry. 
        Unlike the big names out there Jim thrives on the complexity and
artistry
        of the BMW electronics.  Finally, I would consider somebody like
mass chip
        marketer Superchips only after an apocalyptic type complete and
utter
        destruction of  Bonneville Motor Werks (Jim Conforti's company
and all of
        his affiliated retailers).  They just don't have the knowlege
that Jim
        has... there brains aren't big enough.  Fastest stock but chiped
E30 M3
        ever is a Conforti chiped M3 (independantly tested against the
biggest
        names at HMS motorsport).  Fastest BMW's are Jim C BMW's
period..  don't
        waste your time or money.

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